Was talking to Nintendo :-) Sorrry

They are ruining people lives- its basically ripping them iff LoL this is what you call and im repeating it again, game heroin- they are earning lots of money from addicts- this is worser than minecraft (addiction level). I think they should seriously think about us gamers rather than their fat --- greed with money. Whats the point if the game then- games were made to entertain- not pay 5,000 dollar and still cant beat half. This isn't what i call a fair game-its like complete bs, the more money, the better.- thats when the addicts like this guy shows up and spend his entire money on a lifeless virtual village-this is ripping people off- this is what gamers call GAME HEROIN

I don't care about the gamers, I care about the game. It's a gem of a game, pardon the pun - but really. It is. As app-games go, it's absolutely splendid, sociability and hit-and-run warfare, and both at their finest in a cartoonish sort of way.

I hate tirering from it. It's so fun and great playing. You said it, proriggamortize: 120000 to max a base, 6000 for getting halfway there. If I don't spend money, I'll have to spend time. Months and months of it by the standarts of the aim of gem-pricing, that I believe the business-strategy behind Clash of Clans is operating towards. Which is, the longer I'll have to wait, the more likely I am to buy gems, based on the assumption that impatience plays a great part on my mentallity. But I'm not just a sheep. And the imposed impatience (if you will) I'm experiencing from the ever more steeply increasing, typically, upgrade-costs, does not first and foremost make me want to buy gems. I consider it, yes. But first and foremost I just tire at the prospect of days and days of sitting tapping away in raid after raid to accumulate enough ressource for my next upgrade. And I hate it. Because it is such a brilliant game, it deserves better than just as a money-generator in the online-entertainment industry, among countless of others just like it. Because it is NOT like most others of it's kind, simply because of it's idea, a player controlled village in a clearing out in the forest that goes pillaging other player's villages, also out in the forest. Battle royale, and a genius idea in all it's simplicity.

It deserves to be nutured to it's best and allowed to evolve even further. It won't though, not as it is. It'll just be another angry bird zipping by, only somewhat bigger. Something else genius will come by, and it wouldn't be the first genius idea to die only halfway fledged.

Oh, dramatic. I just think it's a shame, is all. I don't believe in resigning to circumstances that aren't the effects of natural laws, not without taking a long hard look at what can be done about it and whether it's worth it. Writting these posts have been worth the time they took, and my points stands unchallenged. Heh.

no i ment the actual sentence "Yeah they are earning 500,000 usd a PROFIT" is jibberish

Jack... I do agree with you. This game does not have it's full potential. I think it's still in it's infancy and will grow to be an amazing game. But a way this is set up right now...... things won't change. They need game changing features such as clan V clan....

As for tapping over and over to build upgrades and wait... then raid..... then wait..... then raid.....then wait... I've found a way to view it as a challenge to myself :-) as you know I'm at TH10 and raiding is a little more than a pain in the ass (Pardon the language but that is truly the only way to explain it :-))

TH9 was that same for me Jack..... raid...wait......raid....wait.... And it got old real quick so I went to TH10 for the new content (yes i know it's slightly rushed so if you tell me my base is slightly rushed ill just ignore you. TH10 inferno towers got me to master league -__-. And yes level 5 walls are just fine for me. Worked didn't it? Wall are overrated in my opinion..... when level 4 pekka and golems attack you it's either no walls or maxed walls. No point in wasting such a massive quantity of loot just to be air attacked or something.)

AAAAaannnyyways I've made it sort of a personal challenge for me to keep 5 builders busy up at 10. That helps make the game more fun in my opinion. Plus I have an amazing clan and we chat 24/7. Do you have a fun clan? (Actually I'm more of a Hopper type. Refer to definition two of hopper)

I'm glad that you think the game will grow to be even more amazing than it already is:-), and I both think and hope so, too. Clan vs. Clan-wars sounds really great, btw, a good addition to enhance the already ferocious competition that is going on.

But I honestly don't think it'll ever reach it's full potential as a game. There's a cooperate way of thinking that is blocking the likelihood of that to happen, manifested in "gems" as the instance of this game will have it. And furthermore, the prices of these gems are completely over the edge, and they are that way because of the game's seemingly popularity.

I chalk it up to cooperate thinking, doing a little experimenting with this existing new way of making money; online entertainment.

And so I try put forward the idea, that a large group of people paying numerous small amounts of money over a long period of time, could easily wind up earning the company behind it all more money, than could a small group of people, paying a large amount of money a handful of times over a short space of time. And no one would really be off for the worse.

Note that the difference between small and large can be excessive, especially when talking the amounts of people to pay. There's, what, half a mill players out there currently? i don't know this, but I can imagine easily ten people for each of those, 5.000.0000 people, who picks up the game, uses the initial gems while having fun, and then quits when seeing the prices for acquirering more gems. Some may buy a small amount of gems, but they'll never the less quit within a month or two. And probably having fun untill they do and never thinking more of it. So all is good, I guess.

But my opinion is, that it's much more healthy for a game to have it's fans stay enthralled with fascination, than out of a sense of having their lifesavings invested.

Also, Proriggamortize (that's one long name you got there, pard'nr;-)), you do buy gems to keep your builders busy. At lvl 10 TH, that can't be cheap, even with what amounts to whole weeks of construction-times in which to raid in. I know, I can only keep 2, sometimes 3 active building on a stable basis.

So you must have accepted to pay what is really a woefully large amount of money to play and progress in the game, and so I understand if you resist the idea of lowering the gem-prices. But I still have this to say to you along this line (though one should abstain from prophecizing, it just never-ever comes true) that we're looking at five years absolutely maximum with playing this game, with the current business-strategy at the helm. And five years only, because I hope it can last that long. In reality I'm thinking more like two or three years. Just my assesment, and actually also the reason why I'm writing all these very lengthy posts. I really want to ignite a consciense, that the game can be run differently on a cooperate level, and that both players and businessmen are likely to benefit.

For now, though, I just gotta go:-)

If you really lose a ton of resources by being attacked, you need a better base. Also, you can't be a farmer and use SPELLS. And also, silver isn't a good farming place, gold is. So you're in the wrong spot.

Gemmers aren't what ruin this game, they're what keeps it up. Without them, the game would shut down and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Wow! What an incredibly biased person! SC isn't greedy, they're business people. I've gotten to TH 8 by only paying $10 on builder's huts, and there are 4 fully maxed TH 10s I know who have done the same. (I'm sure there are other TH 10s who payed little to nothing to get where they are now, I'm just saying I only know 4.) </div>

You can already HAVE a fun experience with paying thousands of dollars! Just because Jorge Yao and Kemal did doesn't mean that everyone has too! Just your lack of patience makes you think so. And, no offense, but the only thing you've helped me get is a headache and less loot because I'm replying to you instead of farming. -_- Now about some ibuprofen...

Nobody from SC is even ON the wiki, so you're "demanding" stuff from random people who have no link to SC. Use the forum.

This thread is too big.